Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
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Started on 2006-08-31
Re: [LbNA] Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
From: morgunjp (morgunjp@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-08-31 16:35:20 UTC
I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort. I
love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series labeled "3
miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge is so
low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways when
the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that people
with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has more
potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits, yet it
fails to live up to its' potential.
Morgun
PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good at
first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just to
have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without the
joy it once held.
Re: [LbNA] Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
From: (mjpepe1@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-08-31 16:41:56 UTC
Very nicely put!
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From: "morgunjp"
I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort. I
love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series labeled "3
miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge is so
low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways when
the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that people
with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has more
potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits, yet it
fails to live up to its' potential.
Morgun
PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good at
first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just to
have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without the
joy it once held.
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From: "morgunjp"
I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort. I
love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series labeled "3
miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge is so
low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways when
the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that people
with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has more
potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits, yet it
fails to live up to its' potential.
Morgun
PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good at
first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just to
have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without the
joy it once held.
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Re: [LbNA] Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
From: Jan (janila@dejazzd.com) |
Date: 2006-09-01 01:35:56 UTC
So does this mean that the boxer with the bad back who can only walk a
half mile isn't putting any effort into it? How about the parents
with the small children who are encouraging their kids to get out of
the house, I guess they aren't putting any effort in either. Or what
about my daughter who is a blind boxer and is thrilled to be able to
walk along a paved park path with me...no effort there either?
I happen to also think that all of these cases provide joy to these
boxers.
Jan of Team Little Dog
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp" wrote:
>
>
> I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort. I
> love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series labeled "3
> miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
>
> Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge is so
> low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways when
> the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that people
> with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
>
> Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has more
> potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits, yet it
> fails to live up to its' potential.
>
> Morgun
> PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good at
> first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just to
> have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
> coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without the
> joy it once held.
>
half mile isn't putting any effort into it? How about the parents
with the small children who are encouraging their kids to get out of
the house, I guess they aren't putting any effort in either. Or what
about my daughter who is a blind boxer and is thrilled to be able to
walk along a paved park path with me...no effort there either?
I happen to also think that all of these cases provide joy to these
boxers.
Jan of Team Little Dog
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp"
>
>
> I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort. I
> love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series labeled "3
> miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
>
> Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge is so
> low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways when
> the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that people
> with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
>
> Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has more
> potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits, yet it
> fails to live up to its' potential.
>
> Morgun
> PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good at
> first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just to
> have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
> coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without the
> joy it once held.
>
Re: [LbNA] Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
From: david baril (gingerbreadjunk@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-08-31 19:49:29 UTC-07:00
i forced my kids to hike williams hill in PA. who says kids dont have fun on long hikes! oh wait.
kids complaining about feet hurting
bugs were getting to them
"are we almost done" mentioned more than once
kids complaining about feet hurting
i suppose that the hardest part of letterboxing is finding out if your kids want to hike a mountian or a mole hill.
dvaid (team new hampshire)
http://teamnewhampshire.blogspot.com
Jan wrote:
So does this mean that the boxer with the bad back who can only walk a
half mile isn't putting any effort into it? How about the parents
with the small children who are encouraging their kids to get out of
the house, I guess they aren't putting any effort in either. Or what
about my daughter who is a blind boxer and is thrilled to be able to
walk along a paved park path with me...no effort there either?
I happen to also think that all of these cases provide joy to these
boxers.
Jan of Team Little Dog
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp" wrote:
>
>
> I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort. I
> love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series labeled "3
> miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
>
> Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge is so
> low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways when
> the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that people
> with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
>
> Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has more
> potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits, yet it
> fails to live up to its' potential.
>
> Morgun
> PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good at
> first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just to
> have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
> coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without the
> joy it once held.
>
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kids complaining about feet hurting
bugs were getting to them
"are we almost done" mentioned more than once
kids complaining about feet hurting
i suppose that the hardest part of letterboxing is finding out if your kids want to hike a mountian or a mole hill.
dvaid (team new hampshire)
http://teamnewhampshire.blogspot.com
Jan
So does this mean that the boxer with the bad back who can only walk a
half mile isn't putting any effort into it? How about the parents
with the small children who are encouraging their kids to get out of
the house, I guess they aren't putting any effort in either. Or what
about my daughter who is a blind boxer and is thrilled to be able to
walk along a paved park path with me...no effort there either?
I happen to also think that all of these cases provide joy to these
boxers.
Jan of Team Little Dog
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp"
>
>
> I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort. I
> love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series labeled "3
> miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
>
> Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge is so
> low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways when
> the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that people
> with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
>
> Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has more
> potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits, yet it
> fails to live up to its' potential.
>
> Morgun
> PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good at
> first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just to
> have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
> coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without the
> joy it once held.
>
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Re: [LbNA] Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
From: ty98jay (ty98jay@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-09-01 05:13:54 UTC
You must have read my mind. I feel some have forgotten we are all
different. Our likes and dislikes are different. What you enjoy may
not be what I enjoy. Some of us like to letterbox and some of us
don't. Some like long hikes. Some like short hikes. Some like ride
bys. Is this really a problem. Is this really taking away from
letteboxing. Has anyone read the paper lately or listen to the news.
There are bigger issues in the world. Nobody is dying, going hungry,
or homeless because people are not visiting long hike boxes. Has
anyone heard the saying "Can't we all just get along"?
Sorry I just had to vent.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jan" wrote:
>
> So does this mean that the boxer with the bad back who can only
walk a
> half mile isn't putting any effort into it? How about the parents
> with the small children who are encouraging their kids to get out
of
> the house, I guess they aren't putting any effort in either. Or
what
> about my daughter who is a blind boxer and is thrilled to be able
to
> walk along a paved park path with me...no effort there either?
>
> I happen to also think that all of these cases provide joy to these
> boxers.
>
> Jan of Team Little Dog
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp" wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort.
I
> > love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series
labeled "3
> > miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
> >
> > Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge
is so
> > low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways
when
> > the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that
people
> > with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> > driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
> >
> > Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has
more
> > potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits,
yet it
> > fails to live up to its' potential.
> >
> > Morgun
> > PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good
at
> > first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just
to
> > have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
> > coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without
the
> > joy it once held.
> >
>
different. Our likes and dislikes are different. What you enjoy may
not be what I enjoy. Some of us like to letterbox and some of us
don't. Some like long hikes. Some like short hikes. Some like ride
bys. Is this really a problem. Is this really taking away from
letteboxing. Has anyone read the paper lately or listen to the news.
There are bigger issues in the world. Nobody is dying, going hungry,
or homeless because people are not visiting long hike boxes. Has
anyone heard the saying "Can't we all just get along"?
Sorry I just had to vent.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jan"
>
> So does this mean that the boxer with the bad back who can only
walk a
> half mile isn't putting any effort into it? How about the parents
> with the small children who are encouraging their kids to get out
of
> the house, I guess they aren't putting any effort in either. Or
what
> about my daughter who is a blind boxer and is thrilled to be able
to
> walk along a paved park path with me...no effort there either?
>
> I happen to also think that all of these cases provide joy to these
> boxers.
>
> Jan of Team Little Dog
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp"
> >
> >
> > I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort.
I
> > love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series
labeled "3
> > miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
> >
> > Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge
is so
> > low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways
when
> > the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that
people
> > with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> > driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
> >
> > Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has
more
> > potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits,
yet it
> > fails to live up to its' potential.
> >
> > Morgun
> > PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good
at
> > first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just
to
> > have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
> > coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without
the
> > joy it once held.
> >
>
Re: Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
From: ty98jay (ty98jay@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-09-01 05:15:45 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jan" wrote:
>
> So does this mean that the boxer with the bad back who can only
walk a
> half mile isn't putting any effort into it? How about the parents
> with the small children who are encouraging their kids to get out
of
> the house, I guess they aren't putting any effort in either. Or
what
> about my daughter who is a blind boxer and is thrilled to be able
to
> walk along a paved park path with me...no effort there either?
>
> I happen to also think that all of these cases provide joy to these
> boxers.
>
> Jan of Team Little Dog
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp" wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort.
I
> > love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series
labeled "3
> > miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
> >
> > Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge
is so
> > low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways
when
> > the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that
people
> > with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> > driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
> >
> > Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has
more
> > potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits,
yet it
> > fails to live up to its' potential.
> >
> > Morgun
> > PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good
at
> > first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just
to
> > have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
> > coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without
the
> > joy it once held.
> >
>
>
> So does this mean that the boxer with the bad back who can only
walk a
> half mile isn't putting any effort into it? How about the parents
> with the small children who are encouraging their kids to get out
of
> the house, I guess they aren't putting any effort in either. Or
what
> about my daughter who is a blind boxer and is thrilled to be able
to
> walk along a paved park path with me...no effort there either?
>
> I happen to also think that all of these cases provide joy to these
> boxers.
>
> Jan of Team Little Dog
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp"
> >
> >
> > I would prefer that my "finds" actually indicated some effort.
I
> > love hiking, and would prefer more hiking boxes. A series
labeled "3
> > miles" will get very few visitors, and that is a pity.
> >
> > Some geocacher/letterboxers do geocaches because the challenge
is so
> > low for letterboxes. What is the point of driving a long ways
when
> > the challenge level is so low. I think it is really sad that
people
> > with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> > driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
> >
> > Perhaps we need a new category of letterbox. Letterboxing has
more
> > potential than geocaching, because it has no rules or limits,
yet it
> > fails to live up to its' potential.
> >
> > Morgun
> > PS Letterboxing is kind of like drinking coffee. It is so good
at
> > first & highly addicting. Later, you have to drink coffee just
to
> > have normal brain function. (BTW - I love being addicted to
> > coffee.) Now people get their letterboxing experience without
the
> > joy it once held.
> >
>
Re: [LbNA] Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
From: funhog1 (funhog@pacifier.com) |
Date: 2006-09-01 16:13:43 UTC
It was quite clear to me that this post was not referring to boxers
with handicaps or small children. I wish folks would consider what the
writer is saying before shooting right back with a "yeah, but..."
response. I thank my lucky stars that I am able to attempt some of the
more challenging boxes, both mental and physical and would hope others
are willing to give them a try, too. Funhog
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp" wrote:
> I think it is really sad that people
> with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
with handicaps or small children. I wish folks would consider what the
writer is saying before shooting right back with a "yeah, but..."
response. I thank my lucky stars that I am able to attempt some of the
more challenging boxes, both mental and physical and would hope others
are willing to give them a try, too. Funhog
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "morgunjp"
> I think it is really sad that people
> with impressive hiking credentials, now entertain themselves by
> driving for an hour or more to walk 30 minutes (and score finds).
Re: [LbNA] Saddness - over lack of hikes & challenge
From: John Chapman (john@johnsblog.com) |
Date: 2006-09-10 12:20:30 UTC-04:00
Many thanks to the_eidolon for a great deal of help on updating maps on LbNA!
Choi
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Choi
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